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Ouch!<br>
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I have been away for the last three and a half weeks. Sorry to see
this going this way, especially with Martin.<br>
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--Jafar<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/2017 2:53 AM, Olivier Dugeon
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<p><font face="Ubuntu">Hi Martin,</font></p>
<p><font face="Ubuntu">Agree. And the following exchange on the
thread let the impression that Paul is not happy and even very
angry which conduct its decision to kick off FFR contributors
to all Quagga tools.<br>
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<p><font face="Ubuntu">I think it is time to publicly announce the
fork to clarify the situation.</font></p>
<p><font face="Ubuntu">Regards</font></p>
<p><font face="Ubuntu">Olivier</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 12/01/2017 à 04:50, Martin Winter
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Olivier,<br>
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I assume so. But I would like the rest of the community to
realize that just working on another project may make him kick
people out.<br>
<br>
Don't want him to silently get away with it...<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On January 11, 2017 9:24:17 PM
GMT+07:00, Olivier Dugeon <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p><font face="Ubuntu">Hello Martin,</font></p>
<p><font face="Ubuntu">I'm pretty sure that Paul is now
aware of our FRR initiative and decided to remove all
FRR contributors to Quagga list.</font></p>
<p><font face="Ubuntu">Just look at Quagga on savannah. </font>Now,
there is only 2 admins: Paul and Greg. If I remember right
there is more admin, at least Donald.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Olivier<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 11/01/2017 à 14:47, Martin
Winter a écrit :<br>
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type="cite">On 11 Jan 2017, at 16:24, Paul Jakma wrote: <br>
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I removed you. <br>
<br>
I'd be glad to talk further on transparency with you. <br>
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I think it would be beneficial for everyone to have a open
discussion on who should be on the list <br>
or not. <br>
<br>
I don’t like to have this discussion in privacy - this
isn’t about me. Maybe I did something stupid <br>
or you (or community?) decided on new rules for who should
be on it. I think it would be beneficial <br>
to everyone to have make it public on who is on the list
and probably why they are on the list (so <br>
it makes somehow the selection more transparent. <br>
<br>
BTW: It seems it was some larger “cleanup” as more people
got removed as well. Not just me. <br>
<br>
So please, can you share your thoughts publicly? <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
- Martin <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Martin Winter
wrote: <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">For the ones here who are
unaware: <br>
<br>
There is a security list (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:security@quagga.net">security@quagga.net</a>)
which deals with security issues reported to Quagga:
Assessing them, fixing them, provide the much needed
disclosures etc. This is a closed list which had
mostly “maintainers” and a few other selected
individuals on it. <br>
<br>
As part of our testing, I used to be on this list as
well - until yesterday when I was taken off without
explanation. <br>
<br>
Not blaming anyone, but I was surprised on it - and
wanted to get a public discussion on who is on the
list and that I might no longer be able to test
security fixes in private as part of this. <br>
<br>
So who is still on the list? Or did the list get
deleted? Or what happened? <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
- Martin Winter <br>
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