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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2018 2:49 PM, Quentin Young
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      There’s two EOL dates in the table. Let’s not pretend that 1 of
      them is the ’true' EOL date.
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        <div class=""><font class="" face="Menlo">+---------------------+----------------------+</font></div>
        <div class=""><font class="" face="Menlo">|    Full Updates    
            |    May 10th, 2017    |</font></div>
        <div class=""><font class="" face="Menlo">+---------------------+----------------------+</font></div>
        <div class=""><font class="" face="Menlo">| Maintenance Updates
            |  November 30th, 2020 |</font></div>
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        <div class="">Here is what I propose, since the majority of
          platforms follow something like the above, roughly:</div>
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        <div class="">- “Full Updates” period, where packages are
          actively updated, new features, new kernels etc</div>
        <div class="">- “Maintenance Updates” i.e. only back porting
          security fixes / critical bug fixes</div>
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        <div class="">For whatever the platform in question is, we do
          the same thing. Continue to ship updated FRR packages for
          platforms in the “Full Updates” phase. Then once they enter
          the “Maintenance Updates” phase we freeze the package at
          whatever version it is, or close to it depending on
          convenience, and then only back port security fixes / critical
          bug fixes.</div>
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        <div class="">Does this sound reasonable to everyone?</div>
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    At first glance, yes. <br>
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    But what does this really mean in practical terms, *we* don't expect
    to support an FRR release for more than say about year right?<br>
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    Are you saying we now need to keep old releases around for as long
    as we have a platform on which we're doing <font class=""
      face="Menlo">Maintenance Updates?  (For example, 3.0 until</font><font
      class="" face="Menlo"><font class="" face="Menlo"> November 30th,
        2020)<br>
        <br>
      </font>What's your thinking / proposal here? <br>
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      Lou<br>
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    On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Lou Berger <<a
      href="mailto:lberger@labn.net" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">lberger@labn.net</a>>
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                      <p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em;" class="">Right. It
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                        Maintenance Updates<a
href="https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product#fndef-a91b3c0c287c782f9af063daff9e64b566d648c7-1"
                          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">2</a> November
                        30th, 2020</p>
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                        February 27, 2018 2:20:24 PM Quentin Young <<a
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                        As Donald said in his email,
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                            <blockquote type="cite" class="">We are just
                              trying to match what the EOL is from the
                              centos website itself.</blockquote>
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                              <div class="">On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:15 PM,
                                Lou Berger <<a
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                                <div class="">fair point, based on a
                                  quick google:<br class="">
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                                  <a href="https://linuxlifecycle.com/"
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                                  CentOS 6 (released 10 Jul 2011, EOL 30
                                  Nov 2020)<br class="">
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                                  Lou<br class="">
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                                  On 2/27/2018 2:01 PM, Donald Sharp
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                                  <blockquote type="cite" class="">Isn't
                                    that Redhat, not centos 6?
                                     Different distributions.  We are<br
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                                    just trying to match what the EOL is
                                    from the centos website itself.<br
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                                    donald<br class="">
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                                    On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Lou
                                    Berger <<a
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                                    wrote:<br class="">
                                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks
                                      for the notes!<br class="">
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                                      On 2/27/2018 12:56 PM, Quentin
                                      Young wrote:<br class="">
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                                        Seeing as Centos 6 went EOL in
                                        May 2017, it is no longer
                                        supported; to<br class="">
                                        be<br class="">
                                          noted in docs<br class="">
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                                      umm, per <a
                                        href="https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata</a><br
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                                       Linux 6, EUS 6.7 (ends December
                                      31, 2018)<br class="">
                                       V6 End of Maintenance Support 2
                                      (Product retirement): June 30,
                                      2024<br class="">
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                                      I know of a fair number of folks
                                      still using 6.x, I think EOL
                                      support is<br class="">
                                      premature.<br class="">
                                      I think FRR support is needed
                                      through *at least* the end of this
                                      year.<br class="">
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                                      Lou<br class="">
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