[dev] FRR Technical Meeting Notes - 02/27/2018

[Lou Berger]

Okay from a practical standpoint I think this means that we have to 
support centos 6.x in new FRR releases until one year before the 
“Maintenance Updates” phase ends as we only support FRR release (even 
security fixes) for ~1 year.  Right?


On 3/2/2018 12:45 PM, Lou Berger wrote:
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> On 2/27/2018 2:49 PM, Quentin Young wrote:
>> There’s two EOL dates in the table. Let’s not pretend that 1 of them 
>> is the ’true' EOL date.
>>
>> +---------------------+----------------------+
>> |    Full Updates   |    May 10th, 2017    |
>> +---------------------+----------------------+
>> | Maintenance Updates |  November 30th, 2020 |
>> +---------------------+----------------------+
>>
>> Here is what I propose, since the majority of platforms follow 
>> something like the above, roughly:
>>
>> - “Full Updates” period, where packages are actively updated, new 
>> features, new kernels etc
>> - “Maintenance Updates” i.e. only back porting security fixes / 
>> critical bug fixes
>>
>> For whatever the platform in question is, we do the same thing. 
>> Continue to ship updated FRR packages for platforms in the “Full 
>> Updates” phase. Then once they enter the “Maintenance Updates” phase 
>> we freeze the package at whatever version it is, or close to it 
>> depending on convenience, and then only back port security fixes / 
>> critical bug fixes.
>>
>> Does this sound reasonable to everyone?
> At first glance, yes.
>
> But what does this really mean in practical terms, *we* don't expect 
> to support an FRR release for more than say about year right?
>
> Are you saying we now need to keep old releases around for as long as 
> we have a platform on which we're doing Maintenance Updates?  (For 
> example, 3.0 untilNovember 30th, 2020)
>
> What's your thinking / proposal here?
>
> Lou
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> On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Lou Berger <lberger at labn.net 
> <mailto:lberger at labn.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Right. It says:
>>> Maintenance Updates2 
>>> <https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product#fndef-a91b3c0c287c782f9af063daff9e64b566d648c7-1> 
>>> November 30th, 2020
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>>> On February 27, 2018 2:20:24 PM Quentin Young 
>>> <qlyoung at cumulusnetworks.com <mailto:qlyoung at cumulusnetworks.com>> 
>>> wrote:
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>>>> As Donald said in his email,
>>>>
>>>>>> We are just trying to match what the EOL is from the centos 
>>>>>> website itself.
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:15 PM, Lou Berger <lberger at labn.net 
>>>>> <mailto:lberger at labn.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> fair point, based on a quick google:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://linuxlifecycle.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> CentOS 6 (released 10 Jul 2011, EOL 30 Nov 2020)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/27/2018 2:01 PM, Donald Sharp wrote:
>>>>>> Isn't that Redhat, not centos 6?  Different distributions.  We are
>>>>>> just trying to match what the EOL is from the centos website itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> donald
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Lou Berger <lberger at labn.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:lberger at labn.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the notes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/27/2018 12:56 PM, Quentin Young wrote:
>>>>>>>> - Seeing as Centos 6 went EOL in May 2017, it is no longer 
>>>>>>>> supported; to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>   noted in docs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> umm, per https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata
>>>>>>>  Linux 6, EUS 6.7 (ends December 31, 2018)
>>>>>>>  V6 End of Maintenance Support 2 (Product retirement): June 30, 2024
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know of a fair number of folks still using 6.x, I think EOL 
>>>>>>> support is
>>>>>>> premature.
>>>>>>> I think FRR support is needed through *at least* the end of this 
>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>>>
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