[frr] [quagga-dev 16497] Re: Security list changes (Transparency?)

Jafar Al-Gharaibeh jafar at atcorp.com
Fri Jan 20 10:02:58 EST 2017


Ouch!

I have been away for the last three and a half weeks.  Sorry to see this 
going this way, especially with Martin.

--Jafar


On 1/12/2017 2:53 AM, Olivier Dugeon wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Agree. And the following exchange on the thread let the impression 
> that Paul is not happy and even very angry which conduct its decision 
> to kick off FFR contributors to all Quagga tools.
>
> I think it is time to publicly announce the fork to clarify the situation.
>
> Regards
>
> Olivier
>
>
> Le 12/01/2017 à 04:50, Martin Winter a écrit :
>> Olivier,
>>
>> I assume so. But I would like the rest of the community to realize 
>> that just working on another project may make him kick people out.
>>
>> Don't want him to silently get away with it...
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On January 11, 2017 9:24:17 PM GMT+07:00, Olivier Dugeon 
>> <olivier.dugeon at orange.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello Martin,
>>
>>     I'm pretty sure that Paul is now aware of our FRR initiative and
>>     decided to remove all FRR contributors to Quagga list.
>>
>>     Just look at Quagga on savannah. Now, there is only 2 admins:
>>     Paul and Greg. If I remember right there is more admin, at least
>>     Donald.
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>     Olivier
>>
>>
>>     Le 11/01/2017 à 14:47, Martin Winter a écrit :
>>>     On 11 Jan 2017, at 16:24, Paul Jakma wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>>     I removed you.
>>>>
>>>>     I'd be glad to talk further on transparency with you.
>>>
>>>     I think it would be beneficial for everyone to have a open
>>>     discussion on who should be on the list
>>>     or not.
>>>
>>>     I don’t like to have this discussion in privacy - this isn’t
>>>     about me. Maybe I did something stupid
>>>     or you (or community?) decided on new rules for who should be on
>>>     it. I think it would be beneficial
>>>     to everyone to have make it public on who is on the list and
>>>     probably why they are on the list (so
>>>     it makes somehow the selection more transparent.
>>>
>>>     BTW: It seems it was some larger “cleanup” as more people got
>>>     removed as well. Not just me.
>>>
>>>     So please, can you share your thoughts publicly?
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>
>>>     - Martin
>>>
>>>>     On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Martin Winter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     For the ones here who are unaware:
>>>>>
>>>>>     There is a security list (security at quagga.net) which deals
>>>>>     with security issues reported to Quagga: Assessing them,
>>>>>     fixing them, provide the much needed disclosures etc. This is
>>>>>     a closed list which had mostly “maintainers” and a few other
>>>>>     selected individuals on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>     As part of our testing, I used to be on this list as well -
>>>>>     until yesterday when I was taken off without explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Not blaming anyone, but I was surprised on it - and wanted to
>>>>>     get a public discussion on who is on the list and that I might
>>>>>     no longer be able to test security fixes in private as part of
>>>>>     this.
>>>>>
>>>>>     So who is still on the list? Or did the list get deleted? Or
>>>>>     what happened?
>>>>>
>>>>>     Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>     - Martin Winter
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>     -- 
>>>>     Paul Jakma | paul at jakma.org | @pjakma | Key ID: 0xD86BF79464A2FF6A
>>>>     Fortune:
>>>>     A university faculty is 500 egotists with a common parking
>>>>     problem.
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