[frr] [quagga-dev 16497] Re: Security list changes (Transparency?)
Jafar Al-Gharaibeh
jafar at atcorp.com
Fri Jan 20 10:02:58 EST 2017
Ouch!
I have been away for the last three and a half weeks. Sorry to see this
going this way, especially with Martin.
--Jafar
On 1/12/2017 2:53 AM, Olivier Dugeon wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Agree. And the following exchange on the thread let the impression
> that Paul is not happy and even very angry which conduct its decision
> to kick off FFR contributors to all Quagga tools.
>
> I think it is time to publicly announce the fork to clarify the situation.
>
> Regards
>
> Olivier
>
>
> Le 12/01/2017 à 04:50, Martin Winter a écrit :
>> Olivier,
>>
>> I assume so. But I would like the rest of the community to realize
>> that just working on another project may make him kick people out.
>>
>> Don't want him to silently get away with it...
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On January 11, 2017 9:24:17 PM GMT+07:00, Olivier Dugeon
>> <olivier.dugeon at orange.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Martin,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that Paul is now aware of our FRR initiative and
>> decided to remove all FRR contributors to Quagga list.
>>
>> Just look at Quagga on savannah. Now, there is only 2 admins:
>> Paul and Greg. If I remember right there is more admin, at least
>> Donald.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> Le 11/01/2017 à 14:47, Martin Winter a écrit :
>>> On 11 Jan 2017, at 16:24, Paul Jakma wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> I removed you.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be glad to talk further on transparency with you.
>>>
>>> I think it would be beneficial for everyone to have a open
>>> discussion on who should be on the list
>>> or not.
>>>
>>> I don’t like to have this discussion in privacy - this isn’t
>>> about me. Maybe I did something stupid
>>> or you (or community?) decided on new rules for who should be on
>>> it. I think it would be beneficial
>>> to everyone to have make it public on who is on the list and
>>> probably why they are on the list (so
>>> it makes somehow the selection more transparent.
>>>
>>> BTW: It seems it was some larger “cleanup” as more people got
>>> removed as well. Not just me.
>>>
>>> So please, can you share your thoughts publicly?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> - Martin
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Martin Winter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For the ones here who are unaware:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a security list (security at quagga.net) which deals
>>>>> with security issues reported to Quagga: Assessing them,
>>>>> fixing them, provide the much needed disclosures etc. This is
>>>>> a closed list which had mostly “maintainers” and a few other
>>>>> selected individuals on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As part of our testing, I used to be on this list as well -
>>>>> until yesterday when I was taken off without explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not blaming anyone, but I was surprised on it - and wanted to
>>>>> get a public discussion on who is on the list and that I might
>>>>> no longer be able to test security fixes in private as part of
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> So who is still on the list? Or did the list get deleted? Or
>>>>> what happened?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> - Martin Winter
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> problem.
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